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Monday, April 7th 2008, 2:07pm

Only able to transfer 1?? and blasto?

My clinic have said this morning due to recent HFEA stuff, they can now only transfer 1 embie into people under 35?? Anyone else had this?

Does it affect your chances?

I did question whether we had any say as we were paying for the treatment, but was told no.. DH wasn't with me at the time and we're back tomorrow, so i'd welcome any advice from any one else??

Also they now do blasto in every case they can, so again no choice about that - but I understand that may give me a better chance??
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Monday, April 7th 2008, 2:13pm

no single embryo/blastocyst transfer is not law as yet but i think alot of clinics are taking this on, to help reduce the risk of multiply births

my clinic will transfer 2 x blastocyst and i was told that the hfea wouldn't have a problem with this due to my many past failures

if you get to blastocyst transfer the chance of pregnancy can be as high as 70%

may i ask what clinic you are at?
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Monday, April 7th 2008, 2:14pm

I have been told by my clinic that we will go to blasto too! They said 50% success rate with this for one blasto embie and 70% for two (but with 50% chance of twins in this case.)
So good news i think! Shame that the option of two is taken away from you but chances of success are good.




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Monday, April 7th 2008, 2:16pm

I will just add though, that i'm only 27 but have been told that i can have two blastos transferred if i wish (have not decided yet though), so it must very much depend on the clinic.




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Monday, April 7th 2008, 2:16pm

just wonder have your clinics set a number of eggs you need at ec to go onto blastocyst?
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Monday, April 7th 2008, 2:19pm

Mine have said that they would go to ec with as little as two but think this is cause i'm high OHSS risk?

They have also said that they would reccomend no et if the embies looked like they would not make it to blast (think it's my choice here though).




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Monday, April 7th 2008, 2:22pm

how many is the minimum require collected at ec to go to blastocyst

most clinics set limits for this
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Monday, April 7th 2008, 2:31pm

I need to check that tomorrow

I am Centre for Reproductive Med iat Walsgrave Hos in Coventry.

Not sure if it is worth fighting for two?? Isn't it our choice if we are paying, it isn't law and we're aware of the twin risk? Just feel the goalposts have changed from 2 weeks ago when we were told nothing of this...
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Monday, April 7th 2008, 2:37pm

you can fight for it but they might still not allow it, the clinic rules might be only single blastocyst transfer, some i even starting to do single embryo transfers with day 2/3 embryos

as this is your first cycle, this is why this might be being suggested to you.

i would also check is the decision to go to blastocyst will be made on day 3 once the embryo have developed
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Monday, April 7th 2008, 5:04pm

Hello BT :smile: I say go for blasto if you get offered, I don't and everything I've read says there is a higher success rate! As for the number of embies, it can't hurt to ask again, but these clinics are quite stubborn...
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Monday, April 7th 2008, 6:13pm

Hi BT, my clinic says it's my choice - one or two - but I don't know what to do about it yet. It's certainly not the law to just have one put back in at the moment.
I also can do blastos but I know I'll be bricking myself incase they don't get that far.
If your clinic is experienced in blastos they will know what's best so I'd go along with them x

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Monday, April 7th 2008, 6:34pm

INFO: A ROUGH GUIDE TO BLASTOCYST

just incase this has been missed
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Monday, April 7th 2008, 7:24pm

Thanks Kara - that's helpful!
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Monday, April 7th 2008, 7:55pm

no problem

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Monday, April 7th 2008, 8:56pm

RE: Only able to transfer 1?? and blasto?

Hi Bouncy Tigger

We are also tx at CRM in Coventry. We were told that we had the choice of transferring either 2 embryos at day 2/3 or only 1 at blastocyst stage. They were pushing us towards blastocyst though. This had never been mentioned to us at any other appointments at the cinic so like you it was a bit our of the blue. It took a while to get our head around it but after reading as much info as we could find we have decided to go for 1 blastocyst - I suppose only you can make that choice.

I have my baseline scan on 21st and hopefully start stimming on 22nd - so we are not far apart on our cycle. How are you finding DR?

Hope everything goes ok for you

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Monday, April 7th 2008, 9:00pm

Hi Sheena.. I'm finding D/R fine.. expected it to be a lot worse, but apart from a few hot sweats, few headaches and a lot of chocolate eating, it's been fine.. has flown by, so have you started D/R today?

It's helpful to know others have been told the same to be honest as well - my research is saying the same as you - I guess my frustration is around the lack of consultation and the insensitive way the news was delivered today..
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Monday, April 7th 2008, 9:13pm

I have been down regging for 10 days now and have another 2 weeks to go - longer than usual but had to fit round work commitments! I've had good days and bad days... the hot sweats have started and my hair is falling out.... I don't wanna get old if this is what menopause is all about! LOL

I know what you mean about the insensitivity and lack of communication and to be told half way through your cycle must have been even worse for you, at least we 've had a few weeks to let it sink in. We all want a baby so much that we want all the chances we can get!!

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Monday, April 7th 2008, 9:17pm

Thanks Sheena - you too!! blowkiss
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Monday, April 7th 2008, 9:31pm

:bye: Bouncy Tigger,

Sorry I can't offer any advice as Im right at the start of my journey. Just want to say :goodluck: with your TX my fingers are crossed for you that you get that :BFP: very soon, so lots of babydust babydust being sent your way.

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Monday, April 7th 2008, 9:34pm

:bye: Sheeny Bean,

Didn't forget about you, I really hope things run smoothly for you too so :goodluck: with your TX, tons of babydust babydust

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Tuesday, April 8th 2008, 9:34am

Update from me - spoke to the HFEA today.

They have advised it isn't law yet regarding the placement of one embryo, but guidance.

They said ultimately it's a clinical decision, but said I should talk to them again today with the questions I have.

I'm fine with it having looked around the internet last night, just would have preferred to have been able to have some input into decision!!
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Tuesday, April 8th 2008, 9:46am

At least you know where you stand now, which probably helps in itself, so that you can be more in control and make decisions yourself. Good luck BT:goodluck:
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Tuesday, April 8th 2008, 10:35am

My clinic, will transfer 2 blasts (but I have had alot of failures) so dont know if they will take the same attitude for a newbie. Will ask next time I speak with them. But I know in general they dont generally do blastocyct at all. I had to ask for it. Funny different clinics different whims.

We chose 1 though, knowing that the chances this month were lowered. But they have frozen the others. If they dont defrost it just wasnt meant to be. Oh that is providing this one doesnt work, but we would try to defrost anyway after the birth (if this one works).

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Tuesday, April 8th 2008, 12:36pm

Hey hun

I am glad you have done your research and made your decision, it helps you to stay calm through your next steps.

Thanks for alerting me to this, the clinic hadn't told me about this and I had to ask today after your email. I am going to sit with DH tonight and go through the research etc so we can make a decision, it is so hard though.

Hope injection teach was ok

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Tuesday, April 8th 2008, 12:47pm

Hi. When I had ICSI in 03 I had two transferred and only one took. This time around the hospital tells me that they plan to transfer just one. It is not law yet; it is a recommendation by the HFEA. I plan to fight this. My reason for this is I / and they have no way of finding out why the second embryo didn't take the first time around, and that if I risk just the one this time around, who's to say the same thing won't happen ??!! We've saved too hard and waited too long to not have the best chances available....

Hope u reach a decision that works for you and your dh. Best of luck :goodluck:
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Tuesday, April 8th 2008, 2:04pm

I agree Soooz and it is still oru intention to fight this... the HFEA were hugely helpful today adn the clinic's attitude seemed to change when I told them we had spoken to the HFEA..

Also the HFEA say they will post guidance soon as they have had lots of calls about this recently..
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Tuesday, April 8th 2008, 2:07pm

BT - you will still have a fantastic chance with one blasto....and we will all have our fingers crossed for you!




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