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Monday, April 20th 2009, 11:30am

a couple of pregnancy questions

I have a couple of niggles: firstly I keep reading that a lot of girls have leaking boobs fairly early, I don't yet, what I do have is dry nipples, looks like dry flaky skin on them. Do you think this is it. They never seem to be leaking though. Is there something or anything I can or should be doing to encourage it? I am starting to worry that I will have baby and have no milk!

Perineum-I have the gel but am slightly confused as to where to apply it :O I alway thought it was between your fufu (thats my word for it) and your bum but I've read something that says you need to insert your fingers inside your fufu. Is this right, I don't want to start doing it and then find out I'm doing the wrong place!!

Also, does anyone know when I need to apply for working tax credit? Don't think we qualify for working tax credit but didn't know how or when I go about it? I know for child benefit I think you get a form in your Bounty pack at the hospital when you have the baby?

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Monday, April 20th 2009, 11:38am

please try not to worry, you milk will come in when ready.. lots of women have this worry.

not sure about tax credits as there wasent such a thing when i have my DD. but give them a call, it cant hurt to ask.

and also cant help with the Perineum, as i dont have a clue what it is :D


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Monday, April 20th 2009, 2:14pm

Hi Picklesmum

Could the dry flaky skin be a bit of dried leakage maybe? ?( Mine never leaked beforehand so you're quite normal (or I'm not either!)

Perinieum is indeed the area between your fufu and your bum. I think the point of putting your finger inside is to stretch that bit just as it comes out. I'm sure someone will be along at some point with a much better explanation and pics (Bells!!)

You can apply for child benefit up to 3 months after the baby is born and they will backdate it if you are entitled to it! If you go on HMRC website you can do a quick calculator to see if you're entitled to WFTC. If you are, ring them and they will send you out a form.

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Monday, April 20th 2009, 2:34pm


Originally posted by philippa_s
Hi Picklesmum

Could the dry flaky skin be a bit of dried leakage maybe? ?( Mine never leaked beforehand so you're quite normal (or I'm not either!)

Mine didn't leak either. I had absolutely no sign of milk until my baby was born so if you're odd and philippa's odd then I am too :D

Some cracking info here, originally posted by Rivka (popping a quote in here in case the old thread is deleted in a future tidy up.)



Originally posted by Rivka

Prenatal Perineal Massage

If you are interested in avoiding an episiotomy, you may find that massaging your perineum can help you stretch for the birth of your baby. In late pregnancy, there is an increase in hormones that loosen connective tissue in preparation for the birth. Perineal massage further increases this elasticity. This massage also helps you learn to relax the pelvic floor muscles while they are being stretched - and this takes practice!

Perineal massage helps prepare you for the feelings of pressure and stretching that come as your baby's head is born. Knowing what some of the sensations will be like can help you to relax and give birth instead of tensing up and fighting the sensations such as stinging, tingling or burning that you may feel as your baby's head is born. Perineal massage can also encourage you to relax when you have a vaginal examination

You can begin any time during the last 6 - 8 weeks before your due date, as this coincides with the rise in hormone levels. Be sure to discuss this with your caregiver especially if you have genital herpes or vaginitis, as massage can worsen these conditions.

General Hints
v The first few times it is helpful to use a mirror to find the vagina and perineum and see what they look like.

v If you feel tense, take a warm bath or use a warm compress on your perineum for 5-10 minutes.

v If you have had an episiotomy with a previous birth, concentrate part of your massage on that area. Scar tissue is not as stretchy as the rest of your skin and needs extra attention.

v The position in which you give birth can affect the likelihood of perineal tearing and the need for an episiotomy. Upright positions (sitting, squatting, kneeling) or side-lying positions reduce the strain on the perineum. Lying on your back with your legs in stirrups makes an episiotomy almost inevitable.

v After childbirth, tone up the stretched vaginal muscles by doing pelvic floor muscle exercises as soon as possible (the birth day!) after your baby has been born.


Begin by emptying your bladder and getting into a comfortable position. You can lie down, propped with pillows into a half-sitting position; you can squat with your back against a wall, or sit on the toilet. A warm bath can help soften your tissues and relax you, or try hot compresses on your perineum.

First massage a good, natural oil into the area, such as wheat germ oil, almond oil, vitamin E oil, or any non-mineral oil. Massage and lubricate the skin and inner inch or so of the vaginal opening, and the lower vaginal walls. Pay special attention to any scar tissue from previous episiotomies or tears. Make sure hands are clean, nails are trim, and if your hands are rough, use disposable latex gloves (the thin surgical type).

Doing the massage yourself?

1. Wash your hands.

2. Choose a private place and sit or lean back in a comfortable position.

3. Put a lubricant such as KY Jelly, Almond Oil, Vitamin E Oil or pure vegetable oil on your thumbs and around your perineum.

4. Place your thumbs about 3-4cms inside your vagina. Press downwards and to the sides at the same time. Gently and firmly keep stretching until you feel a slight burning, tingling or stinging sensation.

5. Hold the pressure steady at that point with your thumbs for about 2 minutes until the area feels a little numb and the tingling sensation is not as apparent.

6. Keep pressing with your thumbs. Slowly and gently massage back and forth over the lower half of your vagina, working the lubricant into the tissues. Keep this up for 3-4minutes. Avoid the urinary opening.

7. As you massage, pull gently outwards (forwards) on the lower part of the vagina with your thumbs hooked inside. This helps stretch the skin as the baby'' head will stretch it during birth.

8. Do this once a day, starting around the 34th week of pregnancy. After about a week you should notice an increase in flexibility and stretchiness.


Your partner doing the massage

Make sure you are nice and relaxed - maybe do some back and thigh massage to get you ready. With well-oiled index fingers, begin by placing them in the vagina up to about the first joint. Press down until the woman is slightly uncomfortable, then stretch out and up into the 'U' shaped motion. By slightly uncomfortable I mean that your partner should stretch you until you feel a tingling or burning sensation. This is the same sensation that you will feel when the baby's head begins to crown, which tells you 'Relax, open up, let go, stop pushing'.
Continue to massage for about 5 minutes.

As you massage each day, you will find that the tissues will noticeably soften and loosen. You will be able to insert two fingers to massage, and insert them to the second joint. You will notice the perineum stretching much wider, with less pain. This helps you to feel confident that a baby's head can surely pass through, that you can allow this to happen.

With fingers inside, do a pelvic floor exercise. Feel where the muscles are and how strong they are. The more pelvic floor exercises you do, the stronger and more tone they will have. Feel how uncomfortable the stretching of your perineum is when you tense this muscle. Try to consciously release this muscle as you massage. Remember the connection between your mouth, jaw and your bottom - if they are loose then your bottom will be too. Always end a massage session with a few pelvic floor exercises to keep the muscles well toned. Doing them after the birth helps to rehabilitate these muscles.



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Monday, April 20th 2009, 3:10pm


Originally posted by Bells


Originally posted by philippa_s
Hi Picklesmum

Could the dry flaky skin be a bit of dried leakage maybe? ?( Mine never leaked beforehand so you're quite normal (or I'm not either!)

Mine didn't leak either. I had absolutely no sign of milk until my baby was born so if you're odd and philippa's odd then I am too :D

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Monday, April 20th 2009, 6:01pm

I love that the instructins for perineal massage tell you to find a private place! Do it on the bus if you want, its your fufu, give a grope if you want. You might get arrested though!