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Wednesday, January 29th 2014, 10:20am

New Member seeking some advice

Hi Everyone

I am new to site and currently researching ivf clinics in the South east of England and London. I am 43 (sadly), never been pregnant and have been TTC naturally for about 20 months and nothing. My partner is a 8 years younger. We feel we cant leave it much longer and need to get going with ivf soon. I am really interested in CREATE HEALTH in Wimbledon as I dislike the idea of taking any drugs at all, but am not sure if at my age we will have any success with a more natural approach. CREATE is also much cheaper so we may be able to do it twice. Also have come across ARGC, sounds brilliant and full on and success rates much higher. Will cost a fortune though so will be our only one shot. Any advice/experiences with either clinic would be really useful and also if you have any other clinics to recommend.

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Wednesday, January 29th 2014, 4:19pm

Welcome to FZ :-)

I think a natural cycle will give you only one embryo to play with and a medicated cycle will (hopefully) give you a fair few more, which in my opinion at 43 (I'm 41!) will give you more chance of having success. Not all eggs will fertilise, not all fertilised eggs develop normally and you want to maximise your chance of having an embryo of decent quality to transfer, as even making it to transfer doesn't guarantee it will implant. For example this cycle I've just done, I had 15 eggs, 10 were mature, 6 fertilised (2 abnormally) and I was left with 4! 2 were poor quality and 2 were average and transferred, but I didn't get pregnant :(

I LOVE the idea of a natural cycle though! But personally I wouldn't risk it. Especially if you are only going to have 1 cycle. Good luck with whatever you decide to do. :D


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Wednesday, January 29th 2014, 6:31pm

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Wednesday, January 29th 2014, 7:47pm

Hi Mayzey

Welcome to the Forum. I hope you find it helpful.

My experience of CREATE was a very positive one as I had my son through my first mild ivf cycle with them. He was conceived back in 2009 when I was 35 (I'm now 40). What I would say about natural / mild IVF is that it is an illusion to think that it is hugely less stressful than doing normal IVF - I have a lot of experience of this too. The process is shorter, as it fits in with your natural cycle, but the main hurdles - getting eggs, fertilisation rates, the two week wait - they are all the same. I was very much like you when I had my son - I barely took a paracetamol and having also had some health issues early in life, I was very worried about taking drugs. Hence I opted for a more natural approach. I was lucky as it worked for me. Having said that, I was not able to get pregnant second time round using these less aggressive methods and I have since switched to standard IVF protocols. I have to say that the effects of the drugs on me have been largely negligible. This is not everyone's experience, of course, but it can go very smoothly. Also, a good clinic will be looking to minimise the amount of stimulation you have, whatever your age.

I think you need to find out a bit more about where you stand. Key questions would be: what is your AMH? If it is on the low side, a more natural approach might help. What is your partner's sperm like? Will you need ICSI? Bear in mind that a natural or mild cycle might yield very few eggs. I have twice been in the position when the eggs collected (on one cycle, I think I only got two, on another, just the one was mature) did not fertilise and the cycles were cancelled. It was hugely upsetting.

Also think about what you might think further down the line. Sometimes I wonder if I'd done normal IVF at 35, I might have had more embryos to freeze (in my successful mild cycle, I had a single embryo transferred - our choice, not the advice given at the time - and one was frozen. Sadly, that FET did not work.) At the same time, I may not have had my son had I done normal IVF instead of mild. Strangely, my follicle count (something that CREATE place a lot of emphasis upon) was lower at 35 than it is now.....

I'm afraid there are no easy answers. Do visit each clinic and speak to the people who will treat you. Get a feel for what you think is best for you and go from there. There is nothing to say you can't try one clinic and then another (I did) - although I appreciate that the money aspect is huge.

Wishing you lots of luck

Jenny x
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Wednesday, January 29th 2014, 8:14pm

Hi and welcome

I hope you like it on here, we have very friendly and supportive members that are sure to make your TTC journey that little bit easier, I hope you feel right at home with us all soon. There is a thread here where a few of the over-40 girls hang out, pop in and say hi!

IVF & ICSI over 40 chat

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There is an IVF/ICSI section HERE with a FAQ section HERE where you will find a great introduction to IVF/ICSI.

There is a male factor section HERE there is loads of information here, plus there are others there that know what you're going through.

There is a Male Factor FAQ section HERE which give loads of information about male fertility, tests and helpful tips too.

There is a thread, Life in the lab – for all your sperm questions HERE where you can ask for advice.

There is a cycle buddies section HERE so you can get to know others having TX at the same time as you.

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